May 24, 2007

LOST left me lost

WARNING - If you are a LOST fan and DID NOT watch the season finale last night (have it Tivoed for viewing later), then do not read this post.

WOW, what a powerful season finale.

The show begins with Jack about to kill himself. Personally, I thought this was a flashback, but it was a flash-forward. I thought this was a flashback because he made mention of his father several times… almost as if his father was still alive.

Charlie died…. and died to save Desmonds life. I think there were a few tears in my living room when that happened.

Hurley became a hero and saved Jin, Sayeed, and Bernard. That was one of the coolest moments in the show.

Locke was revived from sure death and as he was about to off himself, he received a 'message' from a much grown Walt (no longer on the show) telling him that he had a mission.

Ben and Jack face off. For once, you almost have to side with Ben as he was begging Jack not to allow the satellite signal connect with the boat offshore. Based on the flash-forward of Jack throughout the episode, I think Ben is right.

Question - Who died in Jack's flash-forward? It was a main theme of the flash, but the person was never revealed.

Question - Who was Kate with in Jack's flash?

And so much more….

If you want to talk about this, post your thoughts in the comments section.

Woody

 

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May 24, 2007

GreggT @ 8:53 am

Awesome episode! For those without TiVo you can probably watch the episode on the ABC's main site…

Actually I just found it: http://abc.go.com/ and you can watch the entire show.

Kate hopefully is with Sawyer aka James Ford

WHat was Jack saying when in the Hospital (if flash forward) to "Get his father down here"..

But I'm with you.. a bit lost after Lost finale, but wonderfully entertaining.

ps: Charlie locked himself in.. doh!

John-Craig @ 11:46 am

The dude had plenty of time to run out of the room and seal the door before the grenade went off.

Also, he could have just waited for the room to fill up with water then swam out the portal.

I saw only 10 mins of the show, but the silliness of the 10 mins was enough to switch the channel.

admin @ 12:30 pm

Some people just don't 'get it'. ;-)

Woody

Tim Warren @ 2:11 pm

Pretty whacked out show last night!

Future Jack definitely needs a meeting. Maybe he was just so buzzed, he forgot his dad was dead?

I could see Locke having a funeral where no one showed up, and I figured Kate was with Sawyer.

And for John-Craig's "silly" reply: When they showed Charlie floating near the portal, it was way to small for him to fit through.

I think the reason he sealed himself "in" is because he thought Desmond's vision had to play out if everyone else (especially Claire and the baby) was to be rescued.

What a Great Show!

Tim

simon @ 2:48 pm

1. The authors are not stupid:

a. Charlie couldn't get out of the room - if the station is flooded, the system resets itself to block the signal forever
b. the window is too small for him to swim out.
c. he was convinced that if he doesn't die (as predicted) something will go wrong and his girl and the baby are not to be rescued.
d. it was impossible to seal the door from the outside (door's construction).

2. The man who died was John Locke (first two letters on the piece of paper are JO…)

3. Kate was with Sawyer - and his baby (she got pregnant on the island.

More questions?

GreggT @ 4:20 pm

Wow - you guys are good.

a. Charlie couldn't get out of the room - if the station is flooded, the system resets itself to block the signal forever- This is the Answer!

b. the window is too small for him to swim out. (yes)

c. he was convinced that if he doesn't die (as predicted) something will go wrong and his girl and the baby are not to be rescued. (not sure here- as with other visions he did not die but things turned out ok, that's why I thought he 'might' live when he was so happy when he found the station when coming up for air.

d. it was impossible to seal the door from the outside (door's construction). (Agreed)

2. The man who died was John Locke (first two letters on the piece of paper are JO…) (I MISSED THIS BIGTIME)

3. Kate was with Sawyer - and his baby (she got pregnant on the island.) That's cool.

btw: in Reality (back months ago) I heard Charlie was really dating Kate.

I'm going to listen to as many as Robert Ringer's 3 CD book set (21cds).
Action …
To be or not to be …
Looking out for #1 …

Thanks Woodman!

May 25, 2007

Diana @ 6:22 am

OK, so what happens now to the folks who were stranded :

1 - Those who are pregnant — the women and babies will be OK now?

2. The lady who was cured from the final stages of cancer (I think) - will she remain healthy?

3. Kate - Is she still wanted for murder back home?

4. Is Sawyer wanted for anything back home now, too?

5. Did the French mom / daughter pair go back home together? Or did mom stay on the island?

6. Will this series return next year …?

admin @ 7:10 am

I was wondering about Kate in the flash-forward myself. She was in custody on the plane to begin with.

And yes, the series will continue for 2 more seasons beginning in January 08.

Woody

Rich D. @ 9:08 am

Yes, well it helps to know that Death had been chasing Charle for a while on this island. Actually , as I recall Jack grabbed him back from the Islands death grip. Charlie was ready to accept his destiny sacrificing himself for a greater cause. As many a parent would do.

I got a fuuny feelingg that Sawyer was in that casket. John wouldn't return to civilization. And Jack had no other strong bonds with Sayid. And Desmon wouldn't be dead cuz he'd see it coming, right!?

As for Kate.. nice car .. haven't a clue yet!

May 26, 2007

admin @ 8:52 am

Here's some interesting things found:

http://www.lotgk.com/lost/20070523lost.asp
da Man - Posted 5/24/2007
Jacob is trapped in that house. Remember Locke bending down and smelling the soil or whatever it was near the house, there was a ring of it, circle around the house. Obviously Jacob is trapped in the house and wants help to be freed. Jacob can shape shift into anyone on the island and that is what the hallucinations are when anyone sees or speaks to someone. Ben says Jacob talks to him, well yea, as his mother.

Marion Ivey - Posted 5/24/2007
its all about time travel….the Dharma group was on the island,which has been stated to contain weird electromagnetic properties, to investigate time travel and how it effects humans..they keep turning back the time machine every 108 minutes to keep it going…..John Locke can walk because he is "pre-crippled John"..that's why everyone heals so quickly..time keeps looping every 108 minutes..when Desmond didn't hit the button, time started at its regular pace again…Ben's back grew a cancer…etc..etc..that's why babies cant be conceived or born and live on the island…..that's why the others were stealing babies..to save them from the time thingy…that's why Julia was brought to the island..they were safe in the Dharma compounds somehow protected by those electric fence thingies…time travel is why John couldn't kill his father…If he kills his father than he could never be born…right?…Future flashes like Jacks in the last episode will probably be common in the next season..we will find that John Locke actually left the island and brought his father back….Ben kept saying, "..he is here because of you John"…..Locke is something special…I think Jacob is actually Future-John…..Desmond tells Jack at the stadium in the first season that he will save Sarah's life..Vision? or had he been to the future already???….maybe the secret of the island is not where it is but WHEN it is….Google The Orsted Satellite…it orbits the earth and measures certain electromagnetic fields and guess how may minutes it takes to orbit…that's right 108 minutes!….Let me know what you all think….It makes sense to me that something like time manipulation would be a thing that should not be shared with the rest of the world as a casual thing…that's why Ben has to protect the secrets of the island so desperately…time travel in the wrong hands would destroy civilization….

MARION IVEY - Posted 5/26/2007
Here is an Easter egg I found on another website…HOFFS-DRAWLAR was the name of the funeral home in last episode…that name could be an anagram for FLASH
FORWARD!!!..which is also the name of a book called "FLASH FORWARD"..written by Robert Sawyer. key word SAWYER…I found the book available for sale on Amazon and it is a fictional novel about a physicist that discovers an energy source that can catapult the mind into a time warp..glancing into the future..don't know if this makes any sense but it sounds intriguing….there is also a character in the book named JACOB..Hmmmm…according to Amazon..the book was written in 2000

http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2007/05/images2dailyentertainment07052.html
Question #3: Who is in the coffin? Everyone is abuzz about this one, and, frankly, we wonder if the writers even have an answer for us yet. Thanks to some

sleuthing fans who freeze-framed and magnified a shot of the obit, we know the corpse's name is Jeremy Bentham and that he is from New York. Apparently,
Bentham's also the name of an English philosopher from the late-eighteenth/early-nineteenth century who evaluated actions based upon their consequences. (Okay, we looked it up.) Since John Locke is also a philosopher's name, could Jeremy Bentham be Locke's new identity? Also, if Locke is the dead man, that would explain why Jack refers to him as neither friend nor relative. But for that same reason, the corpse could be Sawyer, a con man fond of aliases. The fact that the funeral parlor — which was called Hoffs Drawlar, an anagram of "flash forward" — was in the hood was probably designed to throw us off track. Most likely, the dead person is a new character whom we haven't even met yet. Since the writers have until January to figure this out, we hope the next season delivers. We want to know why Locke is so special, where Walt is coming from, what Penny Widmore's dad is up to, if you can only get to the island by crashing a plane, who will take care of Aaron since Claire is usually loathe to, why this ageless Richard guy isn't in control of the Others, and, finally, what makes this island so damn great. —Phoebe Reilly

AMAZON BOOK
Flashforward by Robert J. Sawyer
http://www.amazon.com/Flashforward-Robert-J-Sawyer/dp/0812580346/ref=pd_bbs_2/105-5111889-2778025?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1180189256&sr=8-2

What would you do if you got a glimpse of your own personal future and it looked bleak? Try to change things, or accept that the future is unchangeable and make the best of it? In Flashforward, Nobel-hungry physicists conducting an unimaginably high-energy experiment accidentally induce a global consciousness shift. In an instant, everyone on Earth is "flashed forward" 21 years, experiencing several minutes of the future. But while everyone is, literally, out of their minds, their bodies drop unconscious; when the world reawakens, car wrecks, botched surgeries, falls, and other mishaps add up to massive death and destruction. Slowly, as recovery efforts continue, people realize that during the Flashforward (as it comes to be called) they experienced a vision of the future. The range of visions is astounding–those who would be asleep in the future saw psychedelic dream landscapes, while others saw nothing at all (presumably they'd be dead). But those who saw everyday life 20 years hence have to come to grips with evidence of dreams forsaken (or realized). Soon, the physicists who caused the Flashforward are struggling to help the world decide whether the future is changeable–and whether the experiment is worth repeating. Robert J. Sawyer has captured a truly compelling idea with Flashforward, and he fully explores what such an event might mean to humanity. Fans will find this to be his best work to date, although the ending seems rushed after a detailed buildup. –Therese Littleton –This text refers to an out of print or unavailable edition of this title.

Randy @ 6:51 pm

Wow Woody,
I am astounded at the amount of research that went into that post above. A lesson for product creation me thinks. Great answers for everything but…
the black smoke creature. If it is an alien that can assume any form, why would it put itself in such danger as to "be" the black smoke? Hmmm?
If time loops every 108 minutes, how did everyone on the island age? (except that one black haired dude with the Others). If Jacob is the shape shifter that is trapped in the house or behind the sandy stuff surrounding the house, how did he talk to the childhood Ben at the compound perimeter? For that matter how did child Ben see his mother out the window of their new apartment when they first arrived on the island?
At one point Ben had said something about the Dharma inhabitants not being able to co-exist with the "original inhabitants of the island". Where are those inhabitants?
Is Charlie really dead? John died, why not? Who decides what is real on the island? Is any of it real? Or just manifestations of each individual in a joint experiment? Something like "The Matrix"?…….

Great story, many posibilities, fun for those of us that like puzzles.

Randy

May 27, 2007

admin @ 8:08 pm

From the site: http://www.lotgk.com/lost/20070523lost.asp

- the blonde in "the looking glass" was the stewertest on the plane.

Amy - Posted 5/27/2007
Once again, I have a few thoughts
1.Okay, I may be getting way ahead of myself here, but when I looked at the screengrabs (zoomed in) of the newspaper clipping, it looked like it said something about the body of J____ (fold in the paper) ___entham. This made me think of Jeremy Bentham, the English philosopher (certainly not the first one on the show). Bentham was perhaps best known for his concept of the Panopticon. From Wikipedia:

"The Panopticon is a type of prison building designed by English philosopher Jeremy Bentham in the late eighteenth century. The concept of the design is to allow an observer to observe (-opticon) all (pan-) prisoners without the prisoners being able to tell if they are being observed or not, thus conveying a "sentiment of an invisible omniscience." In his own words, Bentham described the Panopticon as "a new mode of obtaining power of mind over mind, in a quantity hitherto without example."

Sounds a bit like the island, especially all of the hatches. Also, it would be funny if the character in the coffin were named Jeremy Bentham because he requested that his body be preserved after death. It's still on display in London.
2.the name of the funeral home, "Hoffs Drawlar" is an anagram for Flash Forward
3.I think that, as time moves forward on the island, it moves backwards in real life. When Jack and Kate left the island, they returned to a time in their lives that was before the plane crash, when Jack still had a brown beard and not a grey one, and his father was still alive.
That would also open up the possibility that they have been on the island multiple times. Crash on the island, get rescued, go back in time, crash on the island again. I'm not sure whether they realize it again, but this would really give new meaning to Kate's "Here we go again" last episode.
4.Charlie could have gotten out of the porthole, could have gone out through the door before the grenade, etc., but chose not too. He knew that in order for Desmond's vision to come true (and Claire be rescued), he had to die. However, there's one technical problem with the drowning scene. Since the room would have to be air tight in order to hold in/out water, the water inside the room would have risen to the top of the porthole, then stopped, due to the pressure of the air in the top of the room. This is the same reason why the opening to the station (through which Charlie entered) didn't flood the rest of the station. Oh well, I guess they didn't think of that.
5.I think Mikhail and Richard are the original island inhabitants and this may explain why they do not age or die. Maybe they have four toes?(Hence the four-toed statue).
6.Thinking about the time issue with the island, what if the "flash forwards" are really the present(hence the motorola KRZR cell phone Jack was using), and the island is really past events?
7.I think the 'him' Kate had to get back to was her child, the son of Sawyer

Amy - Posted 5/27/2007
Forgot one
8.I believe the numbers are the Valenzetti Equation which is supposed to predict 'the end.'

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